Jen Psaki

And he lies, right?

Yeah.

It is very hard.

And I think and, you know, there have been moments of headlines where you're like, what the fuck?

You know, I mean, it's like we're about I mean, things Trump has said, but thinks his administration has said that just are not true, that like there isn't enough testing of right and pushing of right.

And maybe that is easy for me to say.

But it's like I don't I mean, this wasn't, I guess, Trump driven.

But I remember when Tom Homan went in.

Right.

And was like the new president.

czar or whatever in Minnesota.

And you're like, people are like, this is a new leaf turned.

And you're like, is it?

This is the guy.

I mean, it's kind of... Anyway, that's kind of a random example.

But yes, to your point, it's a little... There's something that's uncomfortable about it, even though I think...

Democrats who are running and the next Democratic president should do a lot more engaging with the press.

Right.

And I don't mean coming into the press briefing room and doing that.

They can.