Jen Psaki

It's like you have no idea.

And it's real.

And it's not like fun and games.

I mean, exactly.

And you think about and I remember when I was at the State Department as the spokesperson there, you think about how people in foreign capitals.

Right.

They read those transcripts because they see it as indications of where the United States is.

And sometimes it's I mean, currently it's like a lot of people are looking for.

Other partners looking for other kind of global leaders or global superpowers to be partners with economically or otherwise.

I know the Pete Hegseth management of all of this.

I mean, it's like, is he playing Colin Jost?

Is Colin Jost playing him?

I don't even know.

It is.

But there are moments, certainly, where anyone who's worked in the White House wants to just scream and yell about the press, right?

But his strategy of berating reporters for asking very valid questions about war also is...

I think people are watching that around the world.

Right.

This is the secretary of defense.

Right.