Jen Sincero

So that is part of it for sure.

Cause I've also given like free coaching sessions to my friends and it's like the biggest waste of all of our time.

Right.

But so I do think that the exchange of money is very, very real, but I think more importantly, your attitude and the decision.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Absolutely.

And I've been given things for free, especially at that time in my life.

Anything I could get my hands on, I was straight A student.

So the money did have something to do with it, but I was ready.

But you were also committed for free, pay, whatever.

I was so ready.

No, I was- You were all in.

Oh my God, yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

And so I do think it was that sort of, it's sort of like the water hitting the rock and then it's the grand Canyon, you know, like reading the self-help books.

Like I did, I had started that a couple of years before the garage.

So I was sort of priming myself.

And then finally I was just like, I'll do anything.

What was the book that really inspired you the most?