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Jenn

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Five months later, around 150 to 200 of our, Mennonite, clients have had measles, and most of our low German-speaking clients have at least had symptoms.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

As of October 28, there has been 771 cases of measles in the southwestern PHU.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

If 150 to 200 of them were low German-speaking Mennonites as of July, and most of their clients had symptoms at that time, this indicates that the Mennonites would have made up for a substantial amount of all cases in that PHU.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

I rest my case.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Which is not to say that it is a perfect one but here is where I put it down because I am not going to put more effort into it.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

I encourage others to pick it up and put more work into it if they are so inclined.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Heading.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Mennonites are susceptible to facts and logic when presented in low German.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

The general sentiment both in the Reddit comments and in most of the news coverage seems to be something like woe, they're weird religious people, and therefore immune to logic about vaccines, and also something something religious tolerance meaning that we can't criticize their choices at all.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

But in reality, Mennonite parents love their children and do not want them to die of measles, and they do not want to contract measles themselves.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Having looked into it, it seems to me like the largest barrier for them getting medical care and vaccination is that they are not fluent in English, they speak Low German.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

In Ontario, three-quarters of the 700 Mennonite community clients helped by a Low German-speaking personal support worker have agreed to be vaccinated.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

In Alberta, the other large Mennonite population centre, and not coincidentally the other large site of the outbreak, there has been a 25% increase in demand for medical care in Low German, and service has expanded from 5 to 7 days a week.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

And, like, yes, to be clear, there are loads of Mennonites who are actually anti-vaccine.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

I am not disputing the obvious fact that, in religious communities, many people are against vaccinations.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Further, 75% still falls very short of the 92-94% vaccination rate needed for herd immunity.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

But a 75% vaccination rate is much, much higher than I'd have hoped for.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Here is an example of the miscommunication that can happen when one is not fluent in English.