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Jenn

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

The following morning, the Yemenite mother called me.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Her child, who recently developed a measles rash, was coughing so violently she was vomiting.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

I told her to go to the hospital.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Later, she called me again, upset.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

She said that when she got to the ER, they'd told her to go home.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

I couldn't help but think something was off.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

The hospital doesn't turn people away, I told her, but she insisted that they had.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

So I called them directly to figure out what had happened.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

It turned out there had been a miscommunication.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

Hospital staff had told her not to come in, using a stop fan gesture to communicate, and she had become so flustered that she failed to catch the second part of the message, that she should wait in the car while they prepared a negative pressure room.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

If your measles outbreak comes from this sort of community, the solution isn't to fearmonger about anti-vaxxers.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

It is to train up and hire healthcare workers who can speak low German.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

And to be clear, I think the foos that are affected are doing this, or at least the Ontario ones are, because our public health bodies are generally not disconnected from reality.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

And that's what I found most frustrating about the media coverage.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

It obscures something that's genuinely very hopeful and turns it into another random culture warshitfest.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

But actually, it turns out that when you remove the actual language and access barriers, people make reasonable healthcare decisions for their families at pretty high rates.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

So yes, Canada lost its measles elimination status today.

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"Canada Lost Its Measles Elimination Status Because We Don’t Have Enough Nurses Who Speak Low German" by jenn

But we can get it back in a year and a bit if we're serious.