Jennifer Forde

I think he's the most interesting of all the gangland criminals, really, if you see where he's come from and where he's ended up and how he's managed to navigate through all of those eras of organised crime.

An incredible story.

If he was involved in another arena of life, he'd be regarded as a kind of heroic businessman.

But of course he's not.

He's involved in a murderous cartel.

But an incredible story.

Yeah, no, I mean, it's very interesting, the heroin addict.

And maybe we'll come back to that.

And that would have been a good job.

That would have been a good job, a well earning job.

Certainly taxis back in the day when taxis were protected.

His father was also at some point registered or I think as a dairy farm manager.

And also people would say he was involved in kind of street trading, not, you know, as a lot of people in Dublin would have been over the years, involved in some stalls and selling in that sort of arena.

So Christy Kinnan,

is raised in Cabra but his birth certificate says that he was born in England in a place called Perryvale near Ealing I think in London.

So this is the late 1950s when at that time in Irish history we were you know there was high unemployment

a huge number of people left Ireland to go to England at times to get work.

Many of them returned, but that would have been one of the big points of emigration where young couples got married and went over there.

Certainly, Christy Kinnan wasn't raised in England, but he certainly does seem to have had lived there at times.

He's had connections to Birmingham and that sort of area, maybe all his life.