Jennifer Pattison Tuohy

And the Ecobee also, not quite as learning as the Nest, but it used, you know, machine learning to kind of optimize your comfort and energy savings was kind of their line because it was observing your behavior, detecting patterns, you know, it was using something that your bog standard thermostat did not.

And I think that's probably why you feel like you haven't seen people touting AI as a feature here, because the core use case of the type of intelligence we're talking about for bringing into the home is to sort of manage it automatically for you without you having to input.

And that's really what...

the sort of selling point of these thermostats has been for the decade that they've been around.

They were ahead of the game to be fair.

They have had a lot of under the hood kind of upgrades and improvements, but the newer models have added a lot more whiz bang features.

And that's what I think we're starting to see in the smart home is bringing in more use cases for your devices

and also connecting into the rest of your home.

The AI-powered element, I think we'll start to see more of.

Like we mentioned with the speakers, there's this sort of push from the platforms to integrate their Demo9, their Alexa Plus into these devices more so that you can do more with them in your home or ultimately have your home do more for you without you having to

do any input.

Because that was one of the arguments against these devices, the Nest and the Ecobee early on is they would just go off and do their own thing.

And you're like, no, I don't want to be that cold.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I think it's an interesting space to watch.

I mean, there's a lot of new smart thermostats that have come out recently that have one interesting area is Apple's new adaptive temperature feature, which basically takes what

Both the Nest and the Ecobee made their name on that automatically adapting to your habits and use and makes it available to any thermostat that works with Apple Home.

So you have to adopt their API, their adaptive temperature system.

system, but they can do everything like switch modes, detect occupancy, determine when you're coming and going, which is what these other thermostats all did.