Jenny Du

So, um, and then I guess in that sense, it's helpful because in a way it's not about like me or us and our beautiful ideas.

It is about,

like the why we want to do it and who else is it for and knowing that there will be benefits to many other people if we can find a way to get it right.

So it's definitely

you know, a challenge of like resilience.

But we also know that, I mean, I think, you know, your own stories, you know, encountering the same kinds of things, like, so it's also inspiring though, to like meet other people.

Everyone's got their own version of,

the fight i guess and uh how do you not like the heart let the hard days win kind of is actually really tapping into others who are on a journey of of their own um sharing their stories and just going like man like taking energy i think from that so i mean i think about like the you know what you shared at this ted this year with regards to this artist corporation i thought

To me, it's so impressive because when we work within certain bounds, you almost, as a common person, you work within legal bounds.

You've gone and you've created a whole new legal structure.

And so I have a bazillion questions about like where do you start?

Who do you need to convince?

What else needs to change in order to sort of like accommodate that?

And so like can somebody today go and actually register themselves or incorporate as an artist corporation?

But like that's such a perfect example of –

at least for me, as a rule follower.

But the laws are shaped in this way, and where is there really room to carve this out?

So I would love to take it from almost like us trying to figure out what's the resilience that you need to sort of walk through this, but actually hear your direct example of how did that, like what's the first two steps or something that you had to walk down?

Right.

And like, who's really going to like dive into that?