Jenny Du

Who's going to care that much?

Who's going to possibly care that much?

Yeah.

Mostly, yes.

Probably depends a little bit on the day and that's okay.

It's almost learning to give myself some kind of like grace through that.

If you can look over a long enough period of time, it's almost like the things that matter, they kind of bubble back up to the surface, even if there's a time of disruption.

And maybe, again, maybe that's naive that in a way like what's good and right and really better for all of us prevails in the end.

But I guess fortunately there's been so many examples in history where that pendulum does kind of

Navigate its way back and forth, but it's never sort of at least to me.

I don't feel like it's sort of gone in one direction forever and ever and never been able to recalibrate or find its way back again, so That's kind of I think why I maintain a bit more of like an optimistic view is just that like if we look on a long enough time scale then enough of the right moments and

drivers start to kind of click together to create a critical mass or a moment that allows like change to come forward.

I don't know how else to describe it, but it's like what's at the root of all of our like malaise as a society that it can sometimes like devolve to such a state.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

Thank you so much.

That was such a treat.

That was awesome.

Yeah.