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Jenny Keesden

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
342 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

read out a letter symbolically i think in some of the arabic community leaders went up to the base and we the majority of people there's hundreds of hundreds of people in this crowd and they stayed back at a distance and i found out later that that is because the american soldiers said if two bigger group of people come close we will like we will open fire like that that information was given yeah um i don't know what they were scared of you know it's like like any mart here the people in the front row are always granites yeah yeah it's old ladies yeah it's

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

No different on that day. I mean, they're a bit scary to be said. I don't, I think that it's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? And I reckon soldiers would be scared of them. But anyway, that stuff makes sense. But while we were there by like pure chance, a fleet of not tanks, but big armoured cars rolled in. And there was just this moment that I really clearly remember. It just kind of paused.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

No different on that day. I mean, they're a bit scary to be said. I don't, I think that it's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? And I reckon soldiers would be scared of them. But anyway, that stuff makes sense. But while we were there by like pure chance, a fleet of not tanks, but big armoured cars rolled in. And there was just this moment that I really clearly remember. It just kind of paused.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

No different on that day. I mean, they're a bit scary to be said. I don't, I think that it's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? And I reckon soldiers would be scared of them. But anyway, that stuff makes sense. But while we were there by like pure chance, a fleet of not tanks, but big armoured cars rolled in. And there was just this moment that I really clearly remember. It just kind of paused.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

And they rolled through the crowd and the crowd parted. and turned and looked and nobody teared or clapped, obviously. There was no sense of, oh, it's the Americans, right? But nobody sort of threw, you know, threw anything or threw insults or chanted anything negative either.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

And they rolled through the crowd and the crowd parted. and turned and looked and nobody teared or clapped, obviously. There was no sense of, oh, it's the Americans, right? But nobody sort of threw, you know, threw anything or threw insults or chanted anything negative either.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

And they rolled through the crowd and the crowd parted. and turned and looked and nobody teared or clapped, obviously. There was no sense of, oh, it's the Americans, right? But nobody sort of threw, you know, threw anything or threw insults or chanted anything negative either.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

There was just this stillness and this really palpable energy of this kind of sense of people looking at, you know, obviously they're just these soldiers that happen to be driving these trucks, but they really symbolized something more than that. And people were kind of looking

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

There was just this stillness and this really palpable energy of this kind of sense of people looking at, you know, obviously they're just these soldiers that happen to be driving these trucks, but they really symbolized something more than that. And people were kind of looking

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

There was just this stillness and this really palpable energy of this kind of sense of people looking at, you know, obviously they're just these soldiers that happen to be driving these trucks, but they really symbolized something more than that. And people were kind of looking

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

sort of insisting that you look them in the eye saying like hey if anyone owes anyone you owe us after everything we fought for and everything we've done yeah 13 000 martyrs if they would call them exactly exactly yeah so many people lost in the fight against isis and so much like blood and sweat and tears given and there was just yeah this palpable sense of like at least have the decency to kind of look at us and admit what you're doing because you know what you're doing yeah

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

sort of insisting that you look them in the eye saying like hey if anyone owes anyone you owe us after everything we fought for and everything we've done yeah 13 000 martyrs if they would call them exactly exactly yeah so many people lost in the fight against isis and so much like blood and sweat and tears given and there was just yeah this palpable sense of like at least have the decency to kind of look at us and admit what you're doing because you know what you're doing yeah

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

sort of insisting that you look them in the eye saying like hey if anyone owes anyone you owe us after everything we fought for and everything we've done yeah 13 000 martyrs if they would call them exactly exactly yeah so many people lost in the fight against isis and so much like blood and sweat and tears given and there was just yeah this palpable sense of like at least have the decency to kind of look at us and admit what you're doing because you know what you're doing yeah

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

And it really, yeah, it really felt, it was very kind of moving at the time. And I feel like it's very symbolic into politics here of how, you know, someone asked me the other day, what was it like for people to rely on America, knowing that they'd betrayed them? And I said, well, they didn't. They never relied on them.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

And it really, yeah, it really felt, it was very kind of moving at the time. And I feel like it's very symbolic into politics here of how, you know, someone asked me the other day, what was it like for people to rely on America, knowing that they'd betrayed them? And I said, well, they didn't. They never relied on them.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

And it really, yeah, it really felt, it was very kind of moving at the time. And I feel like it's very symbolic into politics here of how, you know, someone asked me the other day, what was it like for people to rely on America, knowing that they'd betrayed them? And I said, well, they didn't. They never relied on them.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

But, you know, there's that kind of, the expectation of at least some sense of dignity. That is a very important concept for people here, dignity and, yeah. So yeah, I always remember that. Say again, I know it's confusing. That was five and a half years ago now. And now you've got this sort of, is history repeating itself?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

But, you know, there's that kind of, the expectation of at least some sense of dignity. That is a very important concept for people here, dignity and, yeah. So yeah, I always remember that. Say again, I know it's confusing. That was five and a half years ago now. And now you've got this sort of, is history repeating itself?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

But, you know, there's that kind of, the expectation of at least some sense of dignity. That is a very important concept for people here, dignity and, yeah. So yeah, I always remember that. Say again, I know it's confusing. That was five and a half years ago now. And now you've got this sort of, is history repeating itself?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 174

They're talking about, well, the troops, I think it's important to understand what that means. What that means is they're talking about potentially giving a green flag for more military aggression. And I think they kind of haven't decided yet if they're really going to do it. And there's a lot of things in, in the balance. And in terms of, I'll just say one more, one more thing.