Jenny Keesden

other armed groups which operate are kind of loosely affiliated and mostly operating on a mercenary sub paid basis rather than being kind of ideologically driven or whatever yeah but are affiliated under the name the sna the syrian national army which is even more confusing because they're not and were never the national army of syria yeah yeah um what they are is yeah these um

Paid militias, which, yeah, we can describe, you might describe as jihadist gangs, mercenaries, et cetera, et cetera. And it kind of depends. It's like a mix of different forces. What's very important there is the very close relationship that they have with the Turkish state.

Paid militias, which, yeah, we can describe, you might describe as jihadist gangs, mercenaries, et cetera, et cetera. And it kind of depends. It's like a mix of different forces. What's very important there is the very close relationship that they have with the Turkish state.

Paid militias, which, yeah, we can describe, you might describe as jihadist gangs, mercenaries, et cetera, et cetera. And it kind of depends. It's like a mix of different forces. What's very important there is the very close relationship that they have with the Turkish state.

Essentially, the Turkish government has made the choice that it wants to continue its aggression and its expansionism on Northern Syria. And rather than immediately sending their own army, they instead pay and fund and direct and support.

Essentially, the Turkish government has made the choice that it wants to continue its aggression and its expansionism on Northern Syria. And rather than immediately sending their own army, they instead pay and fund and direct and support.

Essentially, the Turkish government has made the choice that it wants to continue its aggression and its expansionism on Northern Syria. And rather than immediately sending their own army, they instead pay and fund and direct and support.

these militias, who are also operating for their own benefit, yes, but the relationship between them, their actions right now in the Turkish state is much more direct.

these militias, who are also operating for their own benefit, yes, but the relationship between them, their actions right now in the Turkish state is much more direct.

these militias, who are also operating for their own benefit, yes, but the relationship between them, their actions right now in the Turkish state is much more direct.

So at the same time as you have this sweep to the south that caused the regime change in Syria, heading to the east, so to originally the region of Sheba, followed by the city of Minbij and the region around there, you have this onslaught from the SA. And that is what the SDF, who you originally mentioned, are currently up against. And that's the situation that we're in, and it's

So at the same time as you have this sweep to the south that caused the regime change in Syria, heading to the east, so to originally the region of Sheba, followed by the city of Minbij and the region around there, you have this onslaught from the SA. And that is what the SDF, who you originally mentioned, are currently up against. And that's the situation that we're in, and it's

So at the same time as you have this sweep to the south that caused the regime change in Syria, heading to the east, so to originally the region of Sheba, followed by the city of Minbij and the region around there, you have this onslaught from the SA. And that is what the SDF, who you originally mentioned, are currently up against. And that's the situation that we're in, and it's

It's still ongoing. It's very much not stopped. It's still very much like hot engagement and hot fighting that is happening.

It's still ongoing. It's very much not stopped. It's still very much like hot engagement and hot fighting that is happening.

It's still ongoing. It's very much not stopped. It's still very much like hot engagement and hot fighting that is happening.

Well, yeah, for now.

Well, yeah, for now.

Well, yeah, for now.

there's a little bit more to it than that right yeah absolutely and again it's it's such a big question and it's a question of how far back do you go how far do you zoom out uh because in both senses as you keep moving back from today the plot kind of thickens um and as you you know if you imagine if you're looking at the google maps of syria and then you you click the button that takes you out and out and the map gets wider and wider