Jenny Keesden

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114 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard Mar 2025

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Because, yeah, they are also embedded in their communities. No, they're not extracted from the society the way that most kind of state armies are. So, yeah, the situation at Tehran is still ongoing. And when I was there, it really was the most amazing experience. There were bombings while I was there.
And tragically, one of the people I got to know there, who was a journalist, his name was Egid Roj, just less than two weeks after I got back, I found out that he'd also been killed in another drone strike. So it was, yeah.
it's very very um just kind of it doesn't it doesn't stop the aggression doesn't stop but nonetheless people kind of coming together to resist it doesn't stop either and once i've been there it seemed a lot less crazy or hard to imagine that people would come together around it because you see like the immense power that it has and you see that how everyone here has lost someone though like the vast majority of people here have lost members of their family you said yourself 13 000
fallen in the fight against isis alone right um and since then like war one way or another has been going on so people know what loss means already they've already lost but they're not gonna let that make them step back they're gonna do their fallen loved ones justice and continue to stand up in their name and yeah it's a it's a very sort of big thing but it's really powerful when you see it in in person and in all its kind of humanity and and humor and joy despite the situation
Yes, so if they are interested in following the updates and so on that I've been doing, I've got Instagram and TikTok channels, which are both at jkeysdon, I'm assuming you can stick that written form somewhere.
And Telegram channel as well, if people find it easier to sort of get, yeah, that's just the most condensed way to kind of download information videos or whatever, which you can find under the same name and there's also links to it on the Instagram TikTok.
And on there we've got a wee link tree that has some suggestions for if people want to support like ways to donate, say, to the Kurdish Red Present and stuff like that. And then
specifically yeah i mean there is a lot that people can do and whatever it is it all starts with getting more i wouldn't say informed i would say getting more connected right so getting informed is a part of that but not just in the sense of information learning like it's also connecting with like the feeling of things here and why it's become so important to so many people across the world not just people from here yeah and the more we learn about that the more we'll start to see like
how we can be a friend to the movement here and where how our role can fit um and i know that there are specifically in america a couple of organizations um is it that debbie bookchin's been really prominent in organizing one of them yeah emergency committee for rojava emergency committee for rojava that's the one uh yeah and you had emergency in there somewhere that's definitely worth looking up and following a lot of um
work that they do and you also got like think tanks like the Kurdish Peace Institute that do kind of lobbying and so yeah there are some there is some stuff uh from coming from the United States as well but I think yeah the more people get a chance to kind of learn about stuff here and see the connection and be able to see and find themselves in it and I think that's got a lot to do with what you were just speaking about there you put so well I wouldn't extend it much more but
Yeah, like people here, it's really, there's always war happening and always war kind of filing on top of you, but that's never what it's about. The question is always what are you fighting for and what are you fighting to defend? And what would you be doing if there was no war? Everyone here will always say if there was no war, we'd still have enough work to do.
with all the really like, what's that word? Ambitious, like social transformation that people here are really committed to. There's enough going on and it's very big. And as you put it, it's very beautiful and very joyful.
And so that's, yeah, that's the bit that I encourage people to try and learn more about because that's the bit that makes you stay and makes people like me stick around for years, finding out more and more and making friends and getting closer and closer to the communities here.
Thank you so much. Cheers.
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