Jens Grede

And at the end of it...

There's not that much emotional ownership of the work that you create.

You're a hired gun.

You go home at the end of the day.

And when something goes wrong, it's your fault.

When it goes well, it wasn't you.

It's a pretty thankless place to have a full career.

And I'm very grateful because I had the opportunity to work with some of the greatest to ever do it.

Bernard Arnault at LVMH or...

Remo Ruffini at Montclair and becoming inspired to the point where I wanted to be like them, not work for them.

Two different things.

Remo taught me about the power of the role of art in commerce and letting go.

And he took something which was a small company called Moncler, and it was a small ski company.

And he attached it to fashion and to popular culture and to sport.

He was able to build just an unbelievable brand and company by borrowing all the cues while staying true to the core of the product, which was performance ski.

If it wasn't for that experience, I wouldn't have started Skims.

I wouldn't have started Frame.

The thing with underwear that...

people don't really think of, and I don't blame them, is that they have a lot more in common with a sneaker than they do with a t-shirt.

They're all performance, highly complicated from a construction fit.