Jeremy Boreing

But they're certainly playing with forces.

Hamlet might say, there are more things in heaven and earth

than a president in our philosophy, right?

They're playing with something that's real, whether they think it's real or not.

But I don't think that it is, hmm.

You know, sometimes you just talk because it's your turn to talk, and what you should really do is think for a second.

What I would say is,

The language of religion is being used right now to the benefit of people who, as far as I can see, are not engaged in a project that's consistent with the gospel of Christ.

But it is very powerful tribal language.

They're wielding sort of elemental forces that have existed

In all cultures throughout time, and in the case of Christianity, I believe forces that are quite true.

They're wielding them for personal gain and to great effect because they are greatly effective tools.

I don't.

I don't think that what's being expressed is any sort of true Christian religion.

And I don't think that the fruit that will be born out of this political project is fruit that's consistent with any sort of Christian fruit, as might be described in Scripture.

But they're giving God quite a bad name at the moment by using him in the way that they are.

Very Old Testament.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I would say that a big part of what's happening today

is a sort of, I don't mean this in the church sense of schism, because of course Protestants and Catholics are in schism.