Jeremy Boreing

But I mean in a political sense, there's an effort to create schism between Catholics and Protestants, particularly in America, because

Protestants in America are supportive of the state of Israel, broadly speaking.

And this sort of trad Catholic movement that's very popular in the country right now among this group of people in particular, young, male, you know, Gen Z men, white men,

are being really drawn to Catholicism, in part because of the failures of American evangelicalism over the last 20, 25 years, and in part because of the excesses of, well, what they would say are the excesses of liberalism over the last 40 years.

They're being drawn to something that's more liturgical, that's older, that's more structured, that emphasizes works more than it emphasizes vagaries like faith, what they might perceive as vagaries like faith.

They want something that they can do, something they can belong to.

They want to be part of a tribe.

Not everything about tribalism is bad.

We do belong to tribes, but they want that sense of feeling and purpose.

They've been ostracized from the country in which they are the historic majority.

They've been told every day that everything

that's wrong with the world is because of them, when, of course, that can't possibly be true.

They've been children for most of the time they've been on the planet.

And so they're drawn to things that feel to them substantive.

And of course, Catholicism is not anti-Semitic.

But Catholicism has had struggles with anti-Semitism throughout history, struggles that have been addressed even in the 20th century by the church that they've acknowledged and that they've taken enormous, I think, steps to try to mitigate against.

A lot of these young Catholics in the country right now are sort of evoking a Catholicism before those changes were made.

And I think it's just sort of, I think that it's a confluence, as we were discussing earlier, it's kind of this moment where the appeal of trad Catholicism is connected to the fear of these conspiracies, is connected to the blaming of a smaller and smaller group, which eventually ends up with the smallest group, which is Jews.

You know, a skepticism and skepticism

sort of aversion to the idea that there are powerful elites who run things.