Jeremy Boreing

And if you could go back just a little ways,

The West was doing great.

The Reagan-Thatcher moment in the 1980s was an unbelievable moment of economic growth, economic prosperity, strength, the defeat of the Soviet Union, the victory of liberalism and democracy over tyranny.

You don't have to look back.

don't have to even look back at all you only have to look across land masses or across oceans to see the results of tyranny to see the results of strong man government and how it actually fails in practice it of course it's true that in the kingdom of god it won't be a democracy there will be one guy in charge but he'll have the advantage of being perfect and also being god he'll know everything he won't make mistakes he will be truly virtuous uh

Until you get to that system, I think a far better system is a channeled liberalism.

Channeled by what?

Channeled by rule of law, channeled by cultural institutions.

We've destroyed all of our cultural institutions.

Channeled by the family.

We've destroyed the family.

Did liberalism destroy the family?

No, we destroyed the family.

And when we destroyed the family, liberalism became unchanneled.

So I think the real problem that we face as a people is that the work

The work is us.

We're actually the thing that's gone wrong.

But liberalism is not, by the way, some sort of, I think we derive our sense of liberalism from Christian religion.

And so I do think that there's a spiritual component, a spiritual example of liberalism being good, seeing what virtuous liberalism can look like.

But liberalism itself is not some innate virtue.