Jeremy Boreing

Well, and that really, I think, is the question now, before we move on to other things, is how do you articulate a positive vision of how to deal with the excesses of liberalism that have become woke and embedded themselves in institutions, et cetera, without going to the simple solution, the scapegoat, this group's to blame, et cetera?

What is the positive vision to address all this without going tyrannical, without going into this type of worldview?

Well, I think that we can look back at moments when Western civilization was functioning in a much more healthy way.

And you don't have to look back all that far.

We were discussing a little bit before the show, in the brief time that we got together, how different the world was just before COVID-19.

How if we could get in a time machine and go back to 2019,

we probably would be shocked by the reality, even though it was only six years ago and we all lived through it and were adults and fully formed and had laid down with ladies and gone to war.

And we can't even remember what the regular world was like before they stopped it spinning on its axis and then tried to hit Control-Alt-Delete and reboot the whole damn thing.

History, I say this all the time, history for, people will ask me, I'm particularly bad at this.

People say, do you remember when this person did this?

And I'll say, yeah.

And do you remember when this person did this?

Yeah.

Which came first?

I don't know, because history becomes very two-dimensional to me.

History flattens.

It does for all of us.

You should probably get a little longer than I get out of it, but history becomes very flat.

But history wasn't flat.

History was just as complex and robust as the present, obviously.