Jeremy Corbell

So after that, the order went out, leave them alone.

Just leave them alone because they may have formidable powers of recovery.

A retaliation, something along those lines.

Right, right.

And I interviewed him.

I met him in the second trip when I went back to Russia in 1996.

I met and interviewed him for a project, another project.

And yeah, he said, yeah, that's true.

So, you know, I was able to obtain these thousands and thousands of reports and documents related to that program, which I think was called CETCA.

That was a big score.

Subsequently, meet a guy who is involved in something even more significant, Thread 3.

That program had existed almost as long as the other program.

Different versions of it had been carried out.

And Thread 3 was sort of the culmination.

It was supposed to end, I think, in 1995.

But they were doing analysis of everything that we knew.

They had in that document a history of American ufology.

They had clearly been following it very closely.

They had spies that were looking at our government and trying to infiltrate programs.

And...