Jeremy Guthrie

And so major league baseball got a little bit wiser and they're trying to, as you said, make up for lost time by, by allowing a lot of different what's the word, you know, customization, arm guards and everything else under the sun.

I would say...

When I first started and obviously before that, probably not.

And I think it goes hand in hand with social media, right?

Before in the 1990s, early 2000s, you could wear whatever you wanted, but only 20 to 40,000 people would have any idea what you wore that day.

And even they didn't pay much attention.

So it was more confined to a few teammates and a few opposing players.

And it just wasn't something that was shared.

So I think...

as the idea and evolution of social media came about and things are more visible that's when it becomes a little bit more like oh geez people see what i have they comment on what i have i want to have something cooler and better brighter and better and so um i think for the most part you know the fact that the rule existed with cleats through the 2010s probably wasn't a huge deal for most other than the the small handful of guys that could design their own colorways and

make their own personalization.

But, you know, once it became visible and once fans and kids and adults were able to see it more often, for the most part, I think MLB was kind of in line with, okay, we see that it's a big deal now.

Here it is.

We'll open up the floodgates.

is getting nutty too right which is great it's a great thing yeah well most people that work for you know different customization companies they're very creative and so whether they're coming up with the ideas or or assisting players and doing it or the player themselves brings the idea to the forefront imaginations are running wild and there's no there's no limitations at this point as to what a player can put on his foot whether that means you're painting it

whether that means you're altering it by restitching logos in different locations, or whether that means you're taking a shoe like custom cleats does and making a regular shoe become a cleat.

You can have whatever you want on your foot to play your favorite sport at any point in time.

And that's what a lot of players really enjoy.

That drives a lot of energy for the game and excitement.

And I think custom cleats and other companies are all the beneficiaries of that.