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What up, nerds? I'm Jared, and you are listening to The Change Log, where each week we sit down with the hackers, the leaders, and the innovators of the software world to pick their brains, to learn from their mistakes, to get inspired by their accomplishments, and to have a lot of fun along the way.

What up, nerds? I'm Jared, and you are listening to The Change Log, where each week we sit down with the hackers, the leaders, and the innovators of the software world to pick their brains, to learn from their mistakes, to get inspired by their accomplishments, and to have a lot of fun along the way.

On this episode, I'm joined by Ryan Dahl, creator of Node.js and Deno, his second attempt to level up the world by leveling up JavaScript developers all around the world. We cover a lot of ground. I ask Ryan, why not try to fix or fork Node instead of starting fresh? How Deno, the open source project, can avoid the all too common rug pull not cool scenario?

On this episode, I'm joined by Ryan Dahl, creator of Node.js and Deno, his second attempt to level up the world by leveling up JavaScript developers all around the world. We cover a lot of ground. I ask Ryan, why not try to fix or fork Node instead of starting fresh? How Deno, the open source project, can avoid the all too common rug pull not cool scenario?

what's new in dino 2 and their pragmatic decision to support npm we talk jsr we talk dino kv and sqlite we even talk about ryan's open letter to oracle and his attempt to free the unused javascript trademark from the giant's clutches but first a thank you to our partners at fly.io over 3 million apps have launched on fly including ours and you can too in five minutes or less Learn how at fly.io.

what's new in dino 2 and their pragmatic decision to support npm we talk jsr we talk dino kv and sqlite we even talk about ryan's open letter to oracle and his attempt to free the unused javascript trademark from the giant's clutches but first a thank you to our partners at fly.io over 3 million apps have launched on fly including ours and you can too in five minutes or less Learn how at fly.io.

Okay, Ryan Dahl on the changelog. Let's do this.

Okay, Ryan Dahl on the changelog. Let's do this.

all right i am here with ryan doll creator of node and more recently but not that recently it turns out dino what's up ryan hey how's it going it's going well thanks for joining me you know i was just on youtube checking out some of the node documentaries i think honeypot put up a new one that's a little bit shorter about the origins of dino

all right i am here with ryan doll creator of node and more recently but not that recently it turns out dino what's up ryan hey how's it going it's going well thanks for joining me you know i was just on youtube checking out some of the node documentaries i think honeypot put up a new one that's a little bit shorter about the origins of dino

And I was looking like 600,000 people watched the Node.js documentary. I think the new one has thousands as well. And I wondered, did you ever think this would happen to you? Like just for slinging some C++ code and putting your ideas out there, like you're kind of a internet celebrity now.

And I was looking like 600,000 people watched the Node.js documentary. I think the new one has thousands as well. And I wondered, did you ever think this would happen to you? Like just for slinging some C++ code and putting your ideas out there, like you're kind of a internet celebrity now.

Well, well-deserved. And of course, not just yourself, hundreds, scores of people working on Node over the years. And of course, Dino, you are primary on Dino, but a team over there as well. And gosh, I said not too recently because you've been working on Dino a long time now. Hasn't it been like six or seven years?

Well, well-deserved. And of course, not just yourself, hundreds, scores of people working on Node over the years. And of course, Dino, you are primary on Dino, but a team over there as well. And gosh, I said not too recently because you've been working on Dino a long time now. Hasn't it been like six or seven years?

Yeah. And we are on the edge of Deno 2 now. So you're going to have an official 2.0 launch pending coming very, very soon. It's in a release candidate. So I'm sure people can get out there and use it right now today, right?

Yeah. And we are on the edge of Deno 2 now. So you're going to have an official 2.0 launch pending coming very, very soon. It's in a release candidate. So I'm sure people can get out there and use it right now today, right?

The cool thing about Deno and its origin was these 10 mistakes I made with Node and that conference talk like you mentioned. And then this was your second effort to rearrange the letters, start fresh, fix some of those mistakes. But you've been working on Deno now for seven years.

The cool thing about Deno and its origin was these 10 mistakes I made with Node and that conference talk like you mentioned. And then this was your second effort to rearrange the letters, start fresh, fix some of those mistakes. But you've been working on Deno now for seven years.