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Jess Weatherbed

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
530 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

That doesn't mean it's not going to help.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

if they can figure out a way to effectively communicate all of this metadata and robustly keep it in check, make sure it's not being removed at every instance of being uploaded, then yeah, there'll be some platforms where we'll be able to see if something was maybe generated by the aisle, maybe it was like a verified creator badge, something, whatever Missouri is talking about, where we're going to have to start verifying photographers through metadata and all this other information.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

But there is not going to be a point in the next decade

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

Yeah, three, five years where we sign on and go, I can now tell what's real and what's not because of C2PA.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

That's never going to happen.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

From this turn of events, there's probably going to be some kind of regulatory efforts.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

There's going to be some kind of legal involvement because up until this point, there have been murmurs of how we're going to regulate stuff like with the Online Safety Act in the UK and everything now kind of pointing and going, hey, AI is making a lot of deep fakes of people that we don't like and we should probably talk about having rules in place for that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

But up until that point, these companies have...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

basically been enacting systems that are supposed to help us out of the goodness of their heart, out of the, oh, we've spotted that this is actually a concern and we're going to be doing this, but they haven't been putting any real effort into doing so.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

Otherwise, again, we would have some kind of solution by now where we would see some sort of widespread results at the very least.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

It would involve working together, having widespread communications, and that's supposed to be happening with the CAI, with the initiative that everyone else is currently involved with,

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

There are no results.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

We are not seeing them.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

Instagram made a bold effort over a year ago to stick labels on and then immediately ran back with its head between its legs.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

That is the point of this.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

So unless regulatory efforts actually come in, clamping down on these companies and saying, OK, we actually now have to dictate what your models are allowed to do and what we're going to have repercussions for if we find out what your models are doing and not supposed to be doing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

That is the next stage.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

We have to have this as a conjunction.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

I think that will be beneficial in terms of having that with labeling, with metadata tagging and stuff.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

But alone, there is never going to be a perfect solution to this.