Jesse Carey

Accidents happen.

Yeah.

Oopsie.

But all that says, you can trace a lot of this back to this philosophy of unrestricted warfare.

Yeah.

Where how can you weaponize emotion, right?

Like, it's not about technological superiority.

It's about psychological superiority.

Well, and to that point, too, beyond just like straight up political partisanship or whatever, or like, you know, you're being conditioned to like hate someone who believes different or looks different or thinks different about whatever kind of social or moral issue.

That idea of questioning what is real.

So another figure in Russia was this guy, Surkov.

And he ended up being like the minister of communications or the equivalent, essentially.

He was a propagandist, right?

But he's very high up in the Kremlin for a long time.

But his background was in theater.

Like he was a kind of a theater kid.

And he loved particularly Russians like avant-garde sci-fi.

and there was a movie called stalker um so the premise of this movie you can watch it online it's like a black and white it's pretty it's actually kind of rad you know i kind of did a deep dive into it but so in the movie right it's um it's a sci-fi movie so they kind of intuit that there's this like ufo crash or whatever and it's created this zone where you're per you you can't go to like if you're a regular person

But at the heart of this zone, apparently there's a room.

And if you make it to the room, you can get whatever wish you want, whatever your desires are.