Jesse Carey

Well, listen, and going back to our conversation earlier, right, where I don't want to, I'm not advocating for gaslighting, you know, people who have seen crazy aircraft or, you know, misinformation or anything.

But imagine you're in the seat of someone who knows the technological potential of

of what existing technology is capable of.

And knowing that if it falls into the wrong hands, what the results could be.

what links would you go to to protect that information?

And then you can start seeing this whole path of like, well, maybe we just flood the zone with crazy encounters and feed people stuff so that no one believes what is true and everyone is second-guessing because ultimately...

I don't think it's possible, especially on a large scale, to keep secrets.

I think it's just outside of human nature.

So in order to protect secrets, you might have to let them out, but also... With a bunch of disinformation.

Yeah.

Yeah.

yeah it just keeps so it's like you know a guy who i talked to for the series compared it to there's a method of disrupting or they used to do it um the radars got more sophisticated but basically like before they would do like bombing raids they would fly over enemy territory and drop flecks of metal sometimes like strips of metal

So that the radar would just bounce off of it.

And when you fly through, you know, the radar doesn't know what is fake and what is real.

And he's like, now just apply that to intelligence, you know, that it's not that the plane isn't there dropping the bombs and your radar doesn't see it.

It's that it sees everything all at once and can't deter.

It's, it's Surkov's zone.

It's, it's what is real, what is fake, you know?

Ooh, that's good.

Exactly.