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Jesse Liu

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546 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

OpenAI API break every day or two. They said we observe an issue. You can follow the chat GPT down. There's a very detailed how many breaks per day. It's more than, I guess, more than 10 on average that chat GPT API breaks. or instable, whatever it takes, we have a notifier. So API, first of all, API is not stable. It is not stable. Sure. And... You have to chase for the services people want.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

We want to offer this music feature, and we think Spotify is the best experience overall. And we want to chase for this partnership, and we're still chasing for this partnership. But to talk from technical perspective, why I said I don't like APIs is because think about Alexa. Alexa speakers are all using APIs.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

We want to offer this music feature, and we think Spotify is the best experience overall. And we want to chase for this partnership, and we're still chasing for this partnership. But to talk from technical perspective, why I said I don't like APIs is because think about Alexa. Alexa speakers are all using APIs.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

We want to offer this music feature, and we think Spotify is the best experience overall. And we want to chase for this partnership, and we're still chasing for this partnership. But to talk from technical perspective, why I said I don't like APIs is because think about Alexa. Alexa speakers are all using APIs.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And you literally have to go there and negotiate because, like I said, today, not everyone is opening APIs. A lot of the traditional services don't have API. And then startups, for startups, it's impossible. When you go talk to them, they think you're too small. We did that. We just did that to everyone. They think we're too small. They don't care. So we can't get API.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And you literally have to go there and negotiate because, like I said, today, not everyone is opening APIs. A lot of the traditional services don't have API. And then startups, for startups, it's impossible. When you go talk to them, they think you're too small. We did that. We just did that to everyone. They think we're too small. They don't care. So we can't get API.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And you literally have to go there and negotiate because, like I said, today, not everyone is opening APIs. A lot of the traditional services don't have API. And then startups, for startups, it's impossible. When you go talk to them, they think you're too small. We did that. We just did that to everyone. They think we're too small. They don't care. So we can't get API.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Does that mean that we're not going to figure out an alternative way to make it work? No, hell no. We're going to make it work. And this is exactly how we make it work. So we care about user to use this feature. We don't care about how to do it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Does that mean that we're not going to figure out an alternative way to make it work? No, hell no. We're going to make it work. And this is exactly how we make it work. So we care about user to use this feature. We don't care about how to do it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Does that mean that we're not going to figure out an alternative way to make it work? No, hell no. We're going to make it work. And this is exactly how we make it work. So we care about user to use this feature. We don't care about how to do it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

In fact, because we know that you don't care how this is being done, I don't want to spend six months, eight months, suit up to talk to Spotify people and Uber people and one by one, let's do that, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

In fact, because we know that you don't care how this is being done, I don't want to spend six months, eight months, suit up to talk to Spotify people and Uber people and one by one, let's do that, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

In fact, because we know that you don't care how this is being done, I don't want to spend six months, eight months, suit up to talk to Spotify people and Uber people and one by one, let's do that, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yeah, this is a fun part of the game, really. How do you win the game? First of all, speaking for myself, I've sold my company before when I was 25. I don't want to build another app. I should chase my same dream because I really think that the grand vision that I have and our team was working on is actually the current direction everyone's chasing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yeah, this is a fun part of the game, really. How do you win the game? First of all, speaking for myself, I've sold my company before when I was 25. I don't want to build another app. I should chase my same dream because I really think that the grand vision that I have and our team was working on is actually the current direction everyone's chasing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yeah, this is a fun part of the game, really. How do you win the game? First of all, speaking for myself, I've sold my company before when I was 25. I don't want to build another app. I should chase my same dream because I really think that the grand vision that I have and our team was working on is actually the current direction everyone's chasing.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And it just feels so bad if you don't chase the same dream, no matter how hard it is, really. And in reality, we feel blessed and happy to say the exact situation because We don't have any serious competitors from startups, to be honest.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And it just feels so bad if you don't chase the same dream, no matter how hard it is, really. And in reality, we feel blessed and happy to say the exact situation because We don't have any serious competitors from startups, to be honest.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And it just feels so bad if you don't chase the same dream, no matter how hard it is, really. And in reality, we feel blessed and happy to say the exact situation because We don't have any serious competitors from startups, to be honest.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yes. So I said, as if right now, I don't think we have serious competitors from startup. And then... When we talk about competitors, obviously there's Apple, there's every big companies out there, including OpenAI. First of all, I think this is good for us because it validates our direction. It's absolutely correct.