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Jesse Liu

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
546 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yes. So I said, as if right now, I don't think we have serious competitors from startup. And then... When we talk about competitors, obviously there's Apple, there's every big companies out there, including OpenAI. First of all, I think this is good for us because it validates our direction. It's absolutely correct.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yes. So I said, as if right now, I don't think we have serious competitors from startup. And then... When we talk about competitors, obviously there's Apple, there's every big companies out there, including OpenAI. First of all, I think this is good for us because it validates our direction. It's absolutely correct.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And I also are curious about what are going to be the definitive route for the generic agent technology, because different people in the industry might have different ideas, right? There are still debatable states. There is no evil for agent systems yet. There is no very good evil yet. And you can see a lot of different research houses and companies trying different routes.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And I also are curious about what are going to be the definitive route for the generic agent technology, because different people in the industry might have different ideas, right? There are still debatable states. There is no evil for agent systems yet. There is no very good evil yet. And you can see a lot of different research houses and companies trying different routes.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

And I also are curious about what are going to be the definitive route for the generic agent technology, because different people in the industry might have different ideas, right? There are still debatable states. There is no evil for agent systems yet. There is no very good evil yet. And you can see a lot of different research houses and companies trying different routes.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Obviously, there's API routes like GPTs, which doesn't really take off. There's pure neurosymbolic routes. There's Hebrew routes. There's all this multimodality. So we're still in the phase of everyone trying their own recipe. And hopefully, that can become a definitive recipe, including Apple.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Obviously, there's API routes like GPTs, which doesn't really take off. There's pure neurosymbolic routes. There's Hebrew routes. There's all this multimodality. So we're still in the phase of everyone trying their own recipe. And hopefully, that can become a definitive recipe, including Apple.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Obviously, there's API routes like GPTs, which doesn't really take off. There's pure neurosymbolic routes. There's Hebrew routes. There's all this multimodality. So we're still in the phase of everyone trying their own recipe. And hopefully, that can become a definitive recipe, including Apple.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think the benefit for Apple to do that is that, yes, they understand the user better, much, much better than any companies out there. And they have infinite money. theoretically infinite money and they have the very close ecosystem. The way that they're rolling this out is that they have this SDK called app intent, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think the benefit for Apple to do that is that, yes, they understand the user better, much, much better than any companies out there. And they have infinite money. theoretically infinite money and they have the very close ecosystem. The way that they're rolling this out is that they have this SDK called app intent, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think the benefit for Apple to do that is that, yes, they understand the user better, much, much better than any companies out there. And they have infinite money. theoretically infinite money and they have the very close ecosystem. The way that they're rolling this out is that they have this SDK called app intent, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So different companies or app developers need to choose to enroll or not enroll with that to have the new theory to control stuff. I guess my relative advantage as a small group as Rabbit is that we move fast, right? We move fast and we keep growing. I think if we put all the cars on our table, we have a spectacular launch. We are the most sold dedicated hardware yet. And we have made good profit.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So different companies or app developers need to choose to enroll or not enroll with that to have the new theory to control stuff. I guess my relative advantage as a small group as Rabbit is that we move fast, right? We move fast and we keep growing. I think if we put all the cars on our table, we have a spectacular launch. We are the most sold dedicated hardware yet. And we have made good profit.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So different companies or app developers need to choose to enroll or not enroll with that to have the new theory to control stuff. I guess my relative advantage as a small group as Rabbit is that we move fast, right? We move fast and we keep growing. I think if we put all the cars on our table, we have a spectacular launch. We are the most sold dedicated hardware yet. And we have made good profit.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

We fixed all the day one problems and the company actually quadrupled the size. So we're growing, we're moving fast. And now we drop this, I think... Like you said, put a marker between today and yesterday. I think today I can say a lot of things that you can do on R1 you cannot do on iPhone.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

We fixed all the day one problems and the company actually quadrupled the size. So we're growing, we're moving fast. And now we drop this, I think... Like you said, put a marker between today and yesterday. I think today I can say a lot of things that you can do on R1 you cannot do on iPhone.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

We fixed all the day one problems and the company actually quadrupled the size. So we're growing, we're moving fast. And now we drop this, I think... Like you said, put a marker between today and yesterday. I think today I can say a lot of things that you can do on R1 you cannot do on iPhone.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I believe eventually everyone will be able to come to the same solution that all the device can do same kind of similar stuff. But I firmly believe at least this remaining half a year or the Q4 of 2024 and probably the Q1 2025, it is still a game of you have something that they don't have versus you guys all have the similar stuff. Who's done better?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I believe eventually everyone will be able to come to the same solution that all the device can do same kind of similar stuff. But I firmly believe at least this remaining half a year or the Q4 of 2024 and probably the Q1 2025, it is still a game of you have something that they don't have versus you guys all have the similar stuff. Who's done better?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I believe eventually everyone will be able to come to the same solution that all the device can do same kind of similar stuff. But I firmly believe at least this remaining half a year or the Q4 of 2024 and probably the Q1 2025, it is still a game of you have something that they don't have versus you guys all have the similar stuff. Who's done better?