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Jesse Liu

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Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

We believe around 2020, 2021, we believe that the transformer is absolutely the right path that OpenAI and other companies are heading to. We believe that portion has been solved, will be solved. So our focus immediately shift to, after this device can understand you, can it actually help you do things?

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Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

The company I started 10, 11 years ago, Raventech, we were actually one of the first company that we designed a cloud API structure that, you know, after the recognition, after the understanding, the query got sent into different, you know, APIs. The system has a detector to understand, oh, maybe you're looking for a restaurant on Yelp. Maybe you want to play a song from this streaming software.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

The company I started 10, 11 years ago, Raventech, we were actually one of the first company that we designed a cloud API structure that, you know, after the recognition, after the understanding, the query got sent into different, you know, APIs. The system has a detector to understand, oh, maybe you're looking for a restaurant on Yelp. Maybe you want to play a song from this streaming software.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

The company I started 10, 11 years ago, Raventech, we were actually one of the first company that we designed a cloud API structure that, you know, after the recognition, after the understanding, the query got sent into different, you know, APIs. The system has a detector to understand, oh, maybe you're looking for a restaurant on Yelp. Maybe you want to play a song from this streaming software.

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Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But, you know, I guess 10 years ago, there's a great opportunity of APIs. There's a lot of company working on APIs and, yeah, If you remember like 10 years ago in Silicon Valley, like everyone was talking about maybe in the future, the entire operating system will be just HTML5s, right? But that didn't live quite long.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But, you know, I guess 10 years ago, there's a great opportunity of APIs. There's a lot of company working on APIs and, yeah, If you remember like 10 years ago in Silicon Valley, like everyone was talking about maybe in the future, the entire operating system will be just HTML5s, right? But that didn't live quite long.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But, you know, I guess 10 years ago, there's a great opportunity of APIs. There's a lot of company working on APIs and, yeah, If you remember like 10 years ago in Silicon Valley, like everyone was talking about maybe in the future, the entire operating system will be just HTML5s, right? But that didn't live quite long.

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Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So I think now when we're looking after 2020, like the API business is not really like, you know, major business for most of the popular services. So we also want to take an evaluation of, you know, whether we can build like a generic piece of agent technology, which is really hard because I believe the current AI is all generic. Obviously, there's a lot of people doing vertical stuff, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So I think now when we're looking after 2020, like the API business is not really like, you know, major business for most of the popular services. So we also want to take an evaluation of, you know, whether we can build like a generic piece of agent technology, which is really hard because I believe the current AI is all generic. Obviously, there's a lot of people doing vertical stuff, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So I think now when we're looking after 2020, like the API business is not really like, you know, major business for most of the popular services. So we also want to take an evaluation of, you know, whether we can build like a generic piece of agent technology, which is really hard because I believe the current AI is all generic. Obviously, there's a lot of people doing vertical stuff, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

You can build an agent for Excel. You can build an agent for legal documentation process. But I think the biggest dream, what really makes us excited is like the generic part of it. It's like, can we build something that without pre-training, without knowing people want to do what, and they just tell whatever they want and will be able to smart enough to handle all the tasks.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

You can build an agent for Excel. You can build an agent for legal documentation process. But I think the biggest dream, what really makes us excited is like the generic part of it. It's like, can we build something that without pre-training, without knowing people want to do what, and they just tell whatever they want and will be able to smart enough to handle all the tasks.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

You can build an agent for Excel. You can build an agent for legal documentation process. But I think the biggest dream, what really makes us excited is like the generic part of it. It's like, can we build something that without pre-training, without knowing people want to do what, and they just tell whatever they want and will be able to smart enough to handle all the tasks.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So that's why we felt the opportunity was right. And we started Rabbit right after COVID. Yeah.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So that's why we felt the opportunity was right. And we started Rabbit right after COVID. Yeah.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So that's why we felt the opportunity was right. And we started Rabbit right after COVID. Yeah.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

At the current moment, we're roughly around 50 people, 50 to 60 people if we plus the interns. But when we started, the company was seven. And by the time we launched our CES, it was 17. So just by growing the team within like four or five months is quite a challenging job for me.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

At the current moment, we're roughly around 50 people, 50 to 60 people if we plus the interns. But when we started, the company was seven. And by the time we launched our CES, it was 17. So just by growing the team within like four or five months is quite a challenging job for me.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

At the current moment, we're roughly around 50 people, 50 to 60 people if we plus the interns. But when we started, the company was seven. And by the time we launched our CES, it was 17. So just by growing the team within like four or five months is quite a challenging job for me.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Most of the part is just engineers. We have a very small group of design slash hardware design or ID that we started from day one. And most of the new folks are working on AI and infrastructure perspective, like cloud. Basically, we not only ship the hardware, we build the entire web OS for it, right? So I think the major work is always going to be in the software part.