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Jesse Liu

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
546 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Talking about pins with lasers and glasses, I have different comments for each phone factor because there's no universal rules here because...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Talking about pins with lasers and glasses, I have different comments for each phone factor because there's no universal rules here because...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Talking about pins with lasers and glasses, I have different comments for each phone factor because there's no universal rules here because...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

for let's talk about pains right so like i think my general pushback for making it as a pain with a laser like humane i think first of all i think it's really cool but i think you know uh it's too risky you are trying to offer a new way of utilizing your technology used to have user use software And that's already new to them. And you don't want to just introduce a sci-fi kind of type of gear.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

for let's talk about pains right so like i think my general pushback for making it as a pain with a laser like humane i think first of all i think it's really cool but i think you know uh it's too risky you are trying to offer a new way of utilizing your technology used to have user use software And that's already new to them. And you don't want to just introduce a sci-fi kind of type of gear.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

for let's talk about pains right so like i think my general pushback for making it as a pain with a laser like humane i think first of all i think it's really cool but i think you know uh it's too risky you are trying to offer a new way of utilizing your technology used to have user use software And that's already new to them. And you don't want to just introduce a sci-fi kind of type of gear.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So two new things stacked together, that's too risky. So if you look at R1, it's like very familiar design. You know, there's a button, you know, you're going to push, you know, a wheel probably can scroll. There's a screen, you can look at things. So The R1 phone factor is very conservative in the sense that it de-ricks the software.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So two new things stacked together, that's too risky. So if you look at R1, it's like very familiar design. You know, there's a button, you know, you're going to push, you know, a wheel probably can scroll. There's a screen, you can look at things. So The R1 phone factor is very conservative in the sense that it de-ricks the software.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So two new things stacked together, that's too risky. So if you look at R1, it's like very familiar design. You know, there's a button, you know, you're going to push, you know, a wheel probably can scroll. There's a screen, you can look at things. So The R1 phone factor is very conservative in the sense that it de-ricks the software.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

It's just like people haven't figured out how to interact in the virtual world. And all of a sudden, back in 2016, there's like 200 different companies making goggles, right? And they all fell. So I think I'm very, very conservative on the hardware phone factor. Talking about the glass, that's a different story. I think your skull actually grew to fit the frame, not the other way around.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

It's just like people haven't figured out how to interact in the virtual world. And all of a sudden, back in 2016, there's like 200 different companies making goggles, right? And they all fell. So I think I'm very, very conservative on the hardware phone factor. Talking about the glass, that's a different story. I think your skull actually grew to fit the frame, not the other way around.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

It's just like people haven't figured out how to interact in the virtual world. And all of a sudden, back in 2016, there's like 200 different companies making goggles, right? And they all fell. So I think I'm very, very conservative on the hardware phone factor. Talking about the glass, that's a different story. I think your skull actually grew to fit the frame, not the other way around.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Because I used to wear prescription frames. I know the pain. Your scroll is growing to fit a glass frame. Now they're the other way around. So I think there is really no generic fit on a glass frame. I was having fun with my design team joking. I'm like, maybe if we do the glass, we'll probably do the Dragon Ball style, like the Power Reader or whatever that is.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Because I used to wear prescription frames. I know the pain. Your scroll is growing to fit a glass frame. Now they're the other way around. So I think there is really no generic fit on a glass frame. I was having fun with my design team joking. I'm like, maybe if we do the glass, we'll probably do the Dragon Ball style, like the Power Reader or whatever that is.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Because I used to wear prescription frames. I know the pain. Your scroll is growing to fit a glass frame. Now they're the other way around. So I think there is really no generic fit on a glass frame. I was having fun with my design team joking. I'm like, maybe if we do the glass, we'll probably do the Dragon Ball style, like the Power Reader or whatever that is.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I'm really like, I can't wrap my head around, I'll have to put like a frame, you know, like that doesn't fit. Yeah, we'll see. I think even the current smartphone, I think is perfect. I really like the state of a glass or a screen phone factor. But the real problem here is not about the phone factor. The problem is about the apps, right? Because now we see all this agent technology, AI stuff.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I'm really like, I can't wrap my head around, I'll have to put like a frame, you know, like that doesn't fit. Yeah, we'll see. I think even the current smartphone, I think is perfect. I really like the state of a glass or a screen phone factor. But the real problem here is not about the phone factor. The problem is about the apps, right? Because now we see all this agent technology, AI stuff.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I'm really like, I can't wrap my head around, I'll have to put like a frame, you know, like that doesn't fit. Yeah, we'll see. I think even the current smartphone, I think is perfect. I really like the state of a glass or a screen phone factor. But the real problem here is not about the phone factor. The problem is about the apps, right? Because now we see all this agent technology, AI stuff.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

They're doing things that app are doing and they're doing things that apps can't do. I think the problem is with apps.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

They're doing things that app are doing and they're doing things that apps can't do. I think the problem is with apps.