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Jesse Liu

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546 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So a lot of people have different definition of AGI. I don't really talk about this term because I think so many people have so many different definitions for it. But I do think that AI understand what you say and can help you do things. And maybe here we're talking about virtually help you click buttons and stuff. There are a lot of companies doing human Android.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

So a lot of people have different definition of AGI. I don't really talk about this term because I think so many people have so many different definitions for it. But I do think that AI understand what you say and can help you do things. And maybe here we're talking about virtually help you click buttons and stuff. There are a lot of companies doing human Android.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

that they're actually giving a hand and legs for the AI to do things. I think it is an entire human's effort and a lot of the resources can be shared instead of each company has to go raise for this amount of money and take that amount of time to achieve the same goal. So it's really hard to say, but we know we need more money and resources, that's for sure.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

that they're actually giving a hand and legs for the AI to do things. I think it is an entire human's effort and a lot of the resources can be shared instead of each company has to go raise for this amount of money and take that amount of time to achieve the same goal. So it's really hard to say, but we know we need more money and resources, that's for sure.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

that they're actually giving a hand and legs for the AI to do things. I think it is an entire human's effort and a lot of the resources can be shared instead of each company has to go raise for this amount of money and take that amount of time to achieve the same goal. So it's really hard to say, but we know we need more money and resources, that's for sure.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I think you've seen how efficient this team has been performing. From seven people, 17 people till today, we risked obviously much less than Humane or any big companies out there. I think it's actually one of our advantages that we can do things in a relatively cost-efficient way and fast.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I think you've seen how efficient this team has been performing. From seven people, 17 people till today, we risked obviously much less than Humane or any big companies out there. I think it's actually one of our advantages that we can do things in a relatively cost-efficient way and fast.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I think you've seen how efficient this team has been performing. From seven people, 17 people till today, we risked obviously much less than Humane or any big companies out there. I think it's actually one of our advantages that we can do things in a relatively cost-efficient way and fast.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think the AI model will get very smart very fast. But I think we're talking about a generational shift. I think, obviously, we don't want a 2024 piece of technology operating on eBay's website, which is basically designed back in 1990. So I think a lot of the infra needs to be refreshed. And the biggest gap, as I can see here, is productionized.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think the AI model will get very smart very fast. But I think we're talking about a generational shift. I think, obviously, we don't want a 2024 piece of technology operating on eBay's website, which is basically designed back in 1990. So I think a lot of the infra needs to be refreshed. And the biggest gap, as I can see here, is productionized.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think the AI model will get very smart very fast. But I think we're talking about a generational shift. I think, obviously, we don't want a 2024 piece of technology operating on eBay's website, which is basically designed back in 1990. So I think a lot of the infra needs to be refreshed. And the biggest gap, as I can see here, is productionized.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think in our roadmap, we think that it's very likely that we can get all this separate piece of technology we have, like LAN playground, teach mode, and RabbitOS at some point, maybe next year, kind of like merge into a new RabbitOS 2.0. And that actually will push a huge step forward towards this generic goal. But my general take is that AI model is smart enough.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think in our roadmap, we think that it's very likely that we can get all this separate piece of technology we have, like LAN playground, teach mode, and RabbitOS at some point, maybe next year, kind of like merge into a new RabbitOS 2.0. And that actually will push a huge step forward towards this generic goal. But my general take is that AI model is smart enough.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I think in our roadmap, we think that it's very likely that we can get all this separate piece of technology we have, like LAN playground, teach mode, and RabbitOS at some point, maybe next year, kind of like merge into a new RabbitOS 2.0. And that actually will push a huge step forward towards this generic goal. But my general take is that AI model is smart enough.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But the action part is a lot of infrastructure. There's a huge gap between research and production. So that's what we learned. So I would say that I'm very optimistic in the three years term. But I think, like I said, right now and starting of next year is everyone trying different approaches and we'll see which one works. But I think we're confident on the approach that we'll take right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But the action part is a lot of infrastructure. There's a huge gap between research and production. So that's what we learned. So I would say that I'm very optimistic in the three years term. But I think, like I said, right now and starting of next year is everyone trying different approaches and we'll see which one works. But I think we're confident on the approach that we'll take right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But the action part is a lot of infrastructure. There's a huge gap between research and production. So that's what we learned. So I would say that I'm very optimistic in the three years term. But I think, like I said, right now and starting of next year is everyone trying different approaches and we'll see which one works. But I think we're confident on the approach that we'll take right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yeah, I'm not against any form factors. In fact, I really think that there will be a lot of form factors. When we were trying to design R1, the reason is that we know it's not going to be a smartphone because we know people are going to do a lot of other things on smartphone, which the current AI cannot do. So we deliberately avoided smartphone phone factor.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yeah, I'm not against any form factors. In fact, I really think that there will be a lot of form factors. When we were trying to design R1, the reason is that we know it's not going to be a smartphone because we know people are going to do a lot of other things on smartphone, which the current AI cannot do. So we deliberately avoided smartphone phone factor.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Yeah, I'm not against any form factors. In fact, I really think that there will be a lot of form factors. When we were trying to design R1, the reason is that we know it's not going to be a smartphone because we know people are going to do a lot of other things on smartphone, which the current AI cannot do. So we deliberately avoided smartphone phone factor.