E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And I think for a lot of people, it was a forcing function of, it was kind of this like grow or die moment of like, get your shit together and like do what you're supposed to do in life or like waste away and, you know, kind of repress it forever.
E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
and that experience felt it felt like deeply meaningful along those lines but and especially as far as like me moving from a more kind of like hard charging finance trying to make money trying to like you know being in this like sharp elbowed world of like i need to invest in the next billion dollar thing and you know into like what's going on in reality and like you know going on this kind of gnostic quest
E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And then it's, it also feels like this, it's such a, you know, especially if you don't have, and I didn't like, it wasn't really long enough for me to record it.
E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And like, and I know it sounds ridiculous for somebody that now has a show, you know, and it's fair to, you know, sort of critique, you know, in retrospect, I wish I had.
E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
But then the meaning also feels like hard to unpack where, you know, meaningful in that, like, you know, I'm, I know, I think I know there's a there there because I've experienced something firsthand, or at least it's part of my path.