Jesse Michels

So you can you can you can go at, you know, Neil deGrasse Tyson with around, you know, red shifts and blue shifts and, you know, gravitational perturbations that will like, you know, cause issues with general optical photography, you know.

And, you know, it's like he wouldn't have anything to say after that.

He would just say, well, it can't be.

It can't be.

So like there's that's that ends of the conversation with a person like that, you know.

So it's like extremely frustrating.

I'm sure you deal with it because you have to straddle academia and this sort of more crazy world of UFOs.

You're in upstate New York.

Do you think you're in the general vicinity of Stony Brook University?

Do you think they have anything to do with UFOs?

At Stony Brook, okay.

Because they, yeah, they have, I don't know, a bunch of interesting, they have like differential geometry stuff going on and, you know, they have Jim Simons is like a big guy there.

With UFO stuff, okay.

Because David Spergel, who's Jim Simons, you know, foundation guy.

So Jim Simons is like runs, he just passed away.

ran the best performing hedge fund in the U S over, you know, a 30 year period, um, you know, uh, Renaissance technologies, the medallion fund.

And before that he was an NSA code breaker and also like a brilliant physicist who's contributed a lot to fundamental physics and like Yang Mills and, you know, interesting stuff.

So, um,

My former colleague, Eric Weinstein, has suspected that maybe he has something to do with the UFO question or something.

And that maybe the Renaissance technology is sort of printing money and then they're putting it towards the UFO question.