Jesse Michels

I find it to be like this beautiful, like kind of healing thing.

It was invented by this Hungarian psychiatrist named Stanislav Grof, and it means growing towards wholeness, just like heliotropy, like a plant would grow towards the sun.

And you're supposed to actually endogenously release DMT in your brain if you like do it long enough.

And so it's interesting.

We're doing this holotropic breathwork.

I'm teaching him

not long into the breath work, like five minutes in.

And for people who've done this, I imagine a decent subset of your audience has done this.

You develop a tolerance for it and he hadn't had the tolerance.

So like five minutes in, you get these like T-Rex hands, you know, like your hands.

Yeah, tetany, exactly.

And you're, and you, yeah, like, yeah, or tetany.

Yeah, exactly.

Like tetanus and your hands are clam up.

And so he got that.

And so it was almost as if he was having, like, an even greater experience than what you would expect in, like, a five-minute period.

And you could see, like, it was kind of profound for him.

And...

Five minutes in, we just we look up and we see these two metallic orbs and they're just one seems to be floating above him.

One seems to be floating above me, but really high up.