Jesse Michels

And honestly, I thought all of that was kind of conspiratorial and ridiculous.

Until 2022 happened, there's a NASA UAP panel and then David Spergel, who's Jim Simon's top science advisor, runs the Science Foundation.

On the NASA UAP review panel.

Right.

So I'm like, what's going on?

Is there some sort of connection there?

Because we were just talking about all the weird NASA data and that seems to be like, you know, it seems like it might be suppressed or something.

So, yeah, who knows?

Well, this has been a pleasure, Kevin.

I really love talking to you.

And yeah, I wish you the best of luck with all of your interesting work at University of Albany.

Oh, thank you.

And is there anything you'd like to plug or anything the audience can help kind of promote or support that helps you out?

That's awesome.

And yeah, one of the few academic institutions that is actually systematically looking into this question.

Wow.

Love it.

It's exciting.

Well, excited to see, you know, as you make breakthroughs on a go forward basis and would love to have you back and really appreciate you coming out here.

Alchemists, did you enjoy that?