Jesse Michels

Let's go, yeah.

Thank you for being here, man.

Thank you, Andre.

I'm very happy to be here.

I've been a fan of your show for a while, so this is very cool for me.

Wow, yeah.

That's a lot of output.

It's a lot of output, and thank you for calling them documentaries.

Some of them do include a little more B-roll and editing, and so it's definitely intense, and we'll see if we can keep up that pace.

Thank you.

Yeah, man.

Yes.

Yeah, totally.

I always try to not be actually an evangelist of the topic in person when I see people because and sometimes they don't even know I'm like in the UFOs for like a long period of time until it organically comes up or they like see I have a YouTube channel or something.

I do think it's.

maladaptive may be a strong word, but like not, uh, immediately practical for a lot of people.

And I think like a lot of the stuff you cover on, on your channel around spirituality and tools to, you know, help, you know, uh,

uh your spiritual practice daily i think a lot of that stuff is actually kind of more concrete and more actionable uh you know if you have maslow's hierarchy of needs you'd put that like first right uh you'd put like the existential questions about like what is the nature of reality like up up at the very top and like you alluded to at the beginning uh you know of of your intro it attracts a

all sorts of, you know, grandiosity complexes, people with these sort of autobiographical, like, you know, I'm a star seed who was sent here.

I'm the only one, by the way, no one else is, you know, the person and I'm here to enlighten humanity.