Jesse Michels

splitting an atom and doing, you know, nuclear controlled nuclear fusion might be actually threatening to the establishment in other ways.

And again, there are plenty of, I don't want to play that role because there are plenty of people in the UFO community who are like, sure.

We're like hiding, you know, free energy machines that will like, you know, allow us to like live on clean energy and like get rid of, you know, you know, uh, uh, petrol gas forever.

And like, I don't, I'm not saying that.

Um, but what I am saying is, um,

You have this really interesting experiment in the 50s around, which is essentially what would get us to interstellar travel.

I don't think even conventional physicists, even conventional aerospace people would all admit that Elon Musk's SpaceX stuff is like, it's a recruiting tactic.

Like, we are not going interstellar.

Maybe we can colonize Mars.

I do think it's an amazing company.

Like, he resuscitated Mars.

what NASA was doing single-handedly by literally traveling to Russia and looking into their liquid-fueled rockets.

Amazing.

But you can't go interstellar.

Literally, do the math.

It doesn't work.

So I think some of that tech got locked up.

And now is what we're seeing, and is this modern UFO craze just anti-gravity stuff?

I don't know.

Is it the NHI stuff?