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I'm here with Aldo Ribello, who is a former minister of the Chamber of Deputies, former minister of defense, former minister of sport, current presidential candidate for the Christian Democracy Party, although there's some controversies I want to talk about there.

But you've had an illustrious history.

You are a cornerstone of Brazilian politics.

You are currently running against Lula and Bolsonaro, but in many ways you kind of exist at the intersection between both parties.

You were kind of the almost Plato's philosopher king of Brazilian politics over the last 20 or 30 years.

So I'm very excited to speak to you about your philosophy of Brazilian sovereignty.

You're a long career.

But the reason that I am here, as you know, I focus on kind of anomalous phenomena, the nature of reality.

is that you tweeted something very interesting.

You said, You're talking about UFOs.

What I can say is that if the U.S.

government reveals its documents,

I will do the same if I am elected president of Brazil.