Jesse Michels

Because they, yeah, they have, I don't know, a bunch of interesting, they have like differential geometry stuff going on and, you know, they have Jim Simons is like a big guy there.

With UFO stuff, okay.

Because David Spergel, who's Jim Simons, you know, foundation guy.

So Jim Simons is like runs, he just passed away.

ran the best performing hedge fund in the U S over, you know, a 30 year period, um, you know, uh, Renaissance technologies, the medallion fund.

And before that he was an NSA code breaker and also like a brilliant physicist who's contributed a lot to fundamental physics and like Yang Mills and, you know, interesting stuff.

So, um,

My former colleague, Eric Weinstein, has suspected that maybe he has something to do with the UFO question or something.

And that maybe the Renaissance technology is sort of printing money and then they're putting it towards the UFO question.

And honestly, I thought all of that was kind of conspiratorial and ridiculous.

Until 2022 happened, there's a NASA UAP panel and then David Spergel, who's Jim Simon's top science advisor, runs the Science Foundation.

On the NASA UAP review panel.

Right.

So I'm like, what's going on?

Is there some sort of connection there?

Because we were just talking about all the weird NASA data and that seems to be like, you know, it seems like it might be suppressed or something.

So, yeah, who knows?

Well, this has been a pleasure, Kevin.

I really love talking to you.

And yeah, I wish you the best of luck with all of your interesting work at University of Albany.