Jesse Michels

But ignoring the evidence, I think that's a tragedy.

So you hear of all these abduction cases, like...

Let's admit that we're seeing stuff in the sky.

You're sort of poking holes in the dam that is the existing paradigm.

Just following the data takes you to extremely epistemically weird places, no matter what.

This is kind of a laundry exclusive here.

We're probably not at the top of the food chain and there's like something else going on.

It's really unlikely that they look like not only us, but they look like what a conventional evolutionary biologist would say humans look like in the future.

But until people see a full-scale craft, I think they'll be skeptical and they have the right to be.

In fact, there are good reasons to believe they're not aliens from other planets and they're actually more connected to mankind.

Looking to ancient stories can be really illustrative of what is possibly going on today.

All right, well, if there's any aliens listening right now, hit your boys up.

We've got some questions.

Let's go, yeah.

Thank you for being here, man.

Thank you, Andre.

I'm very happy to be here.

I've been a fan of your show for a while, so this is very cool for me.

Wow, yeah.

That's a lot of output.