Jesse Michels

And, you know, this is like literally being reported on.

And there's even an aviation journalist named Curtis Peebles who claims that Truman, who was president, was so freaked out about this that he ends up on a phone call with Captain Edward J. Ruppelt of the Air Force, who's running Project Blue Book at the time.

So that's somewhat apocryphal.

And I'd love some more verification on whether that phone call occurred, but a hundred percent, there's like mass hysteria in DC.

I've even met with one of the, you know, surviving witnesses of the DC flyover discussing how there was sort of mass hysteria around this.

Right after that, which is I don't think this is coincidental, the CIA does a review of UFOs and it's called the Robertson Panel.

And all these top astronomers and scientists in the U.S.

under Caltech physicist named H.P.

Robertson, they do this thing called the Robertson Panel.

And.

This is now declassified, but it was classified at the time, so it was meant to be secret.

And they basically come to the conclusion that, you know, if the UFO knowledge were to be, like, you know, unleashed or people were to basically know that, like, UFOs were flying with total impunity over our most hardcore defense assets, and we admitted that at the highest levels of government, that would touch off mass hysteria.

Especially think about, like, the Cold War, you know, mindset where, like, you know, you're...

in elementary school and you're getting, you know, videotapes, you know, of like, you know, duck, dive and roll or whatever, because you're so worried that like, you know, an atomic war could start at any time.

So the CIA makes that call.

They create this thing called Project Blue Book, which is the official UFO investigations program on behalf of the Air Force.

And that takes place from 1952 to 1969.

And basically, like in the mandate, in the charter of Project Blue Book, you have this basically let's downplay UFOs, let's rationalize, let's explain away UFOs.

We were talking earlier, you said you're from Michigan.

There's a famous case in 1966 where J. Allen Hynek, who's this Northwestern astronomer, who's basically the chief astronomer for Blue Book,