Jesse Michels

who later admits that he's part of the cover-up and that he didn't take UFOs as seriously as he should have.

He partakes in documentaries about UFOs.

In 1966, they say that there's this swamp gas in Michigan.

Everybody in Michigan is like, that's ridiculous.

We saw UFOs.

We saw lights in the sky.

Yeah.

And so in 1966, there is a review by this guy named Edward Condon about, you know, basically what was Blue Book's efforts?

Were they, like, actually worth it?

Did we spend money on anything possibly productive?

He does this with the University of Colorado.

And...

He comes out of the thing saying, like, I think, you know, this was a total waste of time.

Now, what people don't know is we now have letters between him and an Air Force Colonel, Robert Hippler, where Robert Hippler is telling him, we want you, we don't want to pay for Blue Book anymore.

We want you to say that this is a total waste of time.

A lot of the cases that they did review, I think 25 percent are still unresolved.

So like, you know, that's not inconsistent with there being actual UFOs.

And then Condon was actually very close with Oppenheimer.

They studied at Göttingen in Germany together in the 20s.

And he's responsible for writing the McMahon Secrecy Act in 1946, which gets turned into the Atomic Energy Act of 1954.