Jesse Michels

So that's, I think, and in a lot of these cases, by the way, there's a great book called UFOs and Nukes by Robert Hastings.

And it is a database of all of these UFO nuclear cases where you have guys who are on what's called the PRP program, where they have to report if they're

taking ibuprofen, you know.

So they have to be the picture of mental health to get their job as radar operators or missile security, you know, officers or, you know, whatever.

They're on, you know, they often have secret or top secret clearance.

They're on nuclear sites.

They're next to missiles.

And they often report that the missiles going down and sometimes in one or two cases, sequences being activated, but they always get deactivated.

Yes.

Literally.

Yes, literally.

That's a great case.

So this is September of 1964 at Vandenberg Air Force Base, which is in Santa Barbara.

And there's a guy named Bob Jacobs, who's a photo instrumentation specialist.

And he goes up to Big Sur, which is like 80 miles up the coast.

to view this Atlas missile taking off and this dummy nuclear payload goes off the missile.

And it's supposed to be this test, right?

Vandenberg is actually supposed to just be like a missile testing site.

And he does the instrumentation.

He's like, wow, this is cool, whatever, goes back to the base.