Jesse Michels

And so, yeah, that's just one example.

And it's crazy.

And this is even crazier.

This is kind of an Andre exclusive here.

I just interviewed this.

That was September of 1964.

I just interviewed another guy who's at Vandenberg, September of 1964.

This guy's in his 80s, didn't even know Bob Jacobs.

And he had an alien encounter where he was guarding this shack next to this

uh, like launch facility.

And, uh, he, he gets like cornered by this hooded being and the being like takes off the hood.

It doesn't look human.

He passes out, freaks out, wakes up on a craft is on a craft overlooking.

He sees through a little hole in the, in the UFO that he's overlooking Vandenberg air force base, uh,

His name's Richard Barth, by the way.

And he's on the craft with three or four alien beings that look like they seem to have baby's heads.

It's very sort of strange.

Then he comes down and he's back with the original kind of humanoid hooded figure.

And that hooded figure is like sort of caressing him gently and basically telepathically telling him,

We are here to do recon on your nuclear assets.