Jesse Michels

They see basically this like, what he says, he always says it's the size of a Walmart, is what he said.

So this huge, you know, like fireball, this red fireball.

And he freaks out and he's like, what is this thing?

He sees four beings, which look like little gray aliens, walking towards his car.

And they're saying over and over again, telepathically, do not fear, do not fear, do not fear.

He's completely paralyzed, as is Michael Johnson.

And this is, by the way, a common trope, the do not fear and the being paralyzed.

Interesting combo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right?

Don't worry about it.

You're just, you're okay.

You know, you're paralyzed.

You can't move anything, but you can't fend for yourself.

Yeah, it is ironic, which is why it can't be taken at face value.

You know, it's like, who knows whether they're good or bad?

I don't know.

But they're saying that he blacks out, he wakes up nine miles away from the base, and he doesn't know what happened.

And now all of a sudden the sun's coming up, so it's dawn, and he's freaked out.

And it's like nine miles away from Lake Newell or something, which is like, you know, yeah, it's far from the base.

And so he's like, what happened?