Jesse Michels

I don't know what that is.

It's so weird.

He ends up getting checked in what seems to be kind of a routine protocol by the base.

And they're checking his teeth and they're doing all sorts of tests on him, which implied that they have some sort of familiarity that this thing happens a lot.

And then he retains his clearance and continues working for the DOE for another 20 years, by the way.

has no idea what happened that night, gets a hypnotic regression, which we should get into as well, because that's how a lot of these stories come out, which gets to your question of like,

you know, is that a valid form of memory retrieval or are you like going to make stuff up?

I would say it pattern matches to any extremely traumatic experience.

Somebody, you know, if somebody experiences child abuse or something like that, often those memories get extremely repressed.

It's adaptive for you to repress those memories and they come out in techniques like hypnotic regression.

So he ends up getting a hypnotic regression.

And again, he's on this craft of

operating table.

He calls it a beehive of all these little gray aliens, but they're working for this kind of taller gray alien, which is also a common architecture is you have like a taller gray and they seem to have some sort of superiority over these little gray worker bees.

And according to a lot of people kind of in and around the UFO legacy program, whistleblowers like David Grush, who've testified before Congress now,

they actually say that a lot of these beings are almost like biological androids.

Like, they're actually more robotic in nature.

And so they might not even be conscious.

Like, we are now experimenting as a human civilization with programmable biology.

You know, there's a great professor at Tufts named Michael Levin, and he talks about the bioelectricity of the body and voltage-gated ion channels and, you know...