E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
courier slash you know like probably part-time editor of like what you know what's going on you know with with that which i think is you know should should add credibility um everybody who has you know come out who was a former colleague of his says he's like beyond reproach
E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
In fact, he gave the intelligence community inspector general, Thomas Monheim, hundreds of pages about these reverse engineering programs in front of Congress.
E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And he goes, yeah, get me into a SCIF, which is a secure compartmentalized information facility where you can, you know, basically give classified information.
E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
So I think you have to rank the like, you know, hundreds of nuclear, you know, whistleblowers of like something phenomenologically in our airspace being real, probably above the idea that we have literal reverse engineering programs because of the amount of data we have on one versus the other.