Jesse Michels

I don't have a security clearance.

So I'd be happy to know either way.

We really should just follow the truth wherever it leads us.

Yeah.

But I do think you have a guy who's, it's kind of hard to argue with his credentials and he's providing tons and tons of pages of documents.

So like, let's go to the documents and like figure out like what, what's going on.

And then you mentioned, and then you have stories that comport with that.

So you have like Bob Lazar, for example, who I mentioned where we know he worked at Los Alamos, which was, you know, that was a question initially when he came out.

I think it's clear he worked at Area 51.

He talks about Janet Airlines and Area 51.

Area 51 wasn't a thing before Bob Lazar, so he knew details around its existence that other people didn't seem to know.

I think he met with Edward Teller, who was the, you know, creator of the H-bomb, who was probably implicated in a lot of these kind of spooky science programs.

And so his story is really fascinating.

And again, it's one of these stories where you could change a detail.

The final Jenga block would be, okay, we have our own anti-gravity crafts versus, and you're doing tech protection by calling it alien.

Like, okay, I'm open to that.

And I'm very deep on like anti-gravity stuff too, which I view as a hedge because one of them's got to be right, you know?

And so, again, it's one of those things where like, I'm open to the other thing being right, but he seems to continually be corroborated over time as people sort of, you know, question him.

I have a friend who's making a documentary on him called Project Gravitar.

And I think he's uncovered some pretty good evidence that S4, which is the specific area on Area 51 that really nobody knew about before Bob Lazar exists and that it's this underground facility there.