Jesse Michels

It's a hypothesis that your mind doesn't, you know, collapse the wave function, and it's a hypothesis that it does.

And, you know, the idea that superposition of what you're measuring doesn't exist in the detector, and then your mind is collapsing that, it's impossible to prove either way.

So that's really interesting.

And then what you're getting at is, I think, fascinating, which is,

So if you look at what created string theory, which is basically the need for us to quantize gravity, so we can reconcile the strong force, the weak force, and electromagnetism on a quantum scale.

We cannot reconcile gravity.

So you have macroscopic reality, which is like me, you, space-time, celestial bodies.

And that is general relativity, which is essentially a theory of gravity.

And then you have quantum mechanics.

And the two just don't line up.

And what we've been trying to do since 1957, you have University of North Carolina Chapel Hill Institute of Field Physics basically convening all of the world's top physicists.

And it was...

You know, Richard Feynman, John Wheeler, Peter Bergman, Freeman Dyson, like guys who in conventional physics, you would say are like, you know, the godfathers of like what we are swimming in today academically.

And they're all meeting about, you know, how can you reconcile gravity in the quantum?

Like, how do we how do we sort of figure this out?

And at the time, general relativity was actually seen as kind of a novel curiosity.

And then it became much more of the dominant paradigm kind of after this.

And this need to quantize gravity was kind of popularized at this conference.

That became kind of the mandate of physics at the time.

Now, here's where things get really trippy, really interesting.