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Now back to the show.

Kevin Knuth, this is an absolute honor and it's been a long time coming.

You're a physicist at the University of Albany.

And to me, you are one of the few people who speaks about UFOs in a really concrete way.

hard-headed way.

I think you're one of the few people I know who are studying how these crafts actually fly, how to detect them.

And so I'm really excited to have you.