Jesse Michels

Thank you.

Oh, no, it's an absolute honor.

And you have a NASA background as well.

I want to know how you got into UFOs to begin with, because a lot of people with your sort of credentials and background think UFOs are a joke.

It's wild.

Yeah.

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And the nuclear link, I could see that being the perfect gateway for rigorous scientists like yourself, because I think science in the conventional sense has to be repeatable.

You know, every time you drop this pen, it needs to fall in sort of the same way for it to be science.

And so I think the nuclear link is a version of that with UFOs, where UFOs seem to show up across nuclear bases, not only in the U.S., but all over the world.

We were talking before the show.

I'm wearing my American Alchemy Japan shirt, which is paying homage to Lino, which is a town next to their Fukushima Prefecture, where they have they're famous for their nuclear spill in 2011.

They have their civilian energy grid and UFOs were reported to show up there.

They have a whole museum dedicated to UFOs.

Vice did a documentary on them in 2022.

And it's the town in Japan that's obsessed with UFOs.

And it's right next to this nuclear grid.

And Malmstrom, where you mentioned, that is the site of tons and tons of activity.

You have Bob Salas, obviously, in 67.

But before that, you had this Echo Flight incident.