Jesse Michels

Like if somebody's getting threatened over discovering a thing, it would seem like there'd be some group on the inside that would be tracking people trying to discover a thing that they're already aware of, right?

Yeah, exactly.

That seems like the Occam's razor easy explanation.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've done deep dives on this guy like Townsend Brown, who I'm really fascinated with.

And I talk about him probably too much for the audience always laughs when I talk.

But, you know, I find him to be really interesting because I do think he made breakthroughs in the world of gravity, this sort of Byfield Brown effect, which is, I think, a very simple experiment.

But have you looked into that at all or?

Yeah.

How do you think UFOs fly?

Do you have like a propulsion modality that you like best when it comes to UFOs?

I mean, this is... And he had Mr. Fusion, which was a nuclear fusion machine.

Wow.

Wow.

Do you have any theories?

Interesting.

Yeah.

Do you think you've ever studied UFO parts?

Neutron activations.