Jesse Michels

I think that if you look at, again, what we were talking about with the Atomic Energy Commission and the special definition of nuclear material, where if there's anything radiological, it gets sort of born secret.

National labs are often placed around these nuclear sites kind of strategically.

Where would you be working on the most frontier weapons science?

It would be next to...

nuclear assets make sense, right?

You just co-locate them.

You have like a lot of secrecy around both.

You create these sort of complexes where you have, you know, nuclear and you have that sort of stuff going on.

And so...

My suspicion would be that it would be DOE related.

And there's a line in that book about Townsend Brown, which freaks me out.

And it's like, this makes an H-bomb look like a child's firecracker.

And that's freaky.

And so my question when I'm in rooms with...

You know, often it's gaslighting.

Occasionally it's like, you know, with these sort of higher up people, it's like, yeah, you know, there's a there there on the Townsend Brown stuff.

And I'm like, OK, well, do we have a framework?

Like, if we're at parity with China on this sort of stuff and Russia on this sort of stuff, it's a tragedy that this isn't being used on civil side infrastructure.

We're in L.A.

right now.