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Jesse Rogerson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
140 total appearances

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The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

He would go out, he would observe the sky, and he made very meticulously drawn maps, according to lore.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

Now, his original maps of the sky have been lost, but they were copied and changed and added to by other philosophers of the time, Ptolemy and Al-Sufi, to name a couple.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

But the original maps of Hipparchus have apparently not been seen.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

So enter this group.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

What they did is they, what people used to do is they used to reuse parchment paper, parchment, you know, if nobody's been using it for a while, they would like use some chemicals, they would wash off all the ink and then they would write over top of it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

And so they've been, this group has been

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

looking at all these old ancient parchments and finding and seeing that there's, there is, you can see it with your eyes that there's stuff smudged on there from like the last time it was used.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

But how do you like get the information out?

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

And they use a technique called x-ray fluorescence.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

And they, the different inks light up in different ways depending on the light that you hit on it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

And if you do it in the correct way, you can see like layer one, layer two, layer three, layer four, all the way down.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

My favorite result so far is that they found Hipparchus' catalog.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

They found that it was as precise as someone would have said from hundreds of years ago, so the lore lived up.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

But what I really love about this story is you have Hipparchus' maps

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

And then you can compare them to Ptolemy's maps and see what was taken and what was changed and what was added.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

You can see the growth of the knowledge from one generation to the next.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

And that is an important step that we were missing, is how was science evolving of the sky over hundreds of years?

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

And now we have a big piece of the puzzle, Hipparchus' map.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

No worries.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Jesse Rogerson: Spider Monkeys Know Things - January 27, 2026

Always happy to be here.

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