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Jesse Rogerson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1647 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

This is where this wolf cub was found.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Yeah.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

You know, you're, you know, things like the flesh of an animal is going to degrade over time.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And certainly the DNA is going to degrade really fast.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

DNA does not last long through through like fossilization.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

So the fact that it was so well-preserved, and you should see the wolf cub.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

It's amazing.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

It looks like a very recent animal.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

So they're able to take the DNA out of the flesh from the stomach of the wolf cub, identify it as the woolly rhino, and then they ask the question, what can we tell from this DNA?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And they were able to look at the genetic diversity of the DNA,

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Because, so the question is, if this animal, the woolly rhino, was like slowly losing population over many thousands of years, like slowly degrading, slowly becoming extinct, you would be able to see in the DNA that there was less genetic diversity happening.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Exactly, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And so you'd be able to tell that.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

What they found is that they did this for the wolf cub DNA of the woolly rhino, and then they compared it to a couple of other samples they have from further back in the woolly rhino history, 18,000 years, 40,000 years, 50,000 years.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

and found no major changes in genetic diversity, indicating that there was no slow decline.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

They had an abrupt extinction around the 14,000-year mark.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Great hypothesis and an abrupt extinction likely points to something environmental.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And at that time, 14,000 years ago, there was environmental things happening.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Climate change was happening in a different way than it is happening today.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

There was large shifts in global temperatures.